ALIEN V = Possibly a prequel? - Page 3

Spoon · 07-13-2005, 05:29 AM

It's still a worthy idea though. But how could you say A3 is better than A2? :tongue:

Injektilo · 07-13-2005, 06:04 AM

Easily. Though I prefer Aliens too, I can see why people are more captivated by 3.

[AVPW]Corpral Hic · 07-13-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Cobra Commander
Yes, but AvP was pure shit. If we're going to go with all new characters, setting, plot, and time then it needs to be done a hell of alot better than AvP.

But that was the fault of a crappy writer.

Cthulhu0Dreaming · 07-13-2005, 12:02 PM

We all ahve to face the fact that if Fox gives the go for A5, which Weaver has stated she's willing to do (I can't remember if she said she'd do it only if Scott were directing), she will be the main focus.

After all, it's been 26 years of the alien AND Ripley.

What they should have done was not bring her back in AR, that would solve this problem. But AR most likely wouldn't have been made if Weaver didn't sign on as lead actress and producer.

My personal opinion on the genre of A5 should retun to the horror/sci-fi tone Scott set in Alien (which is the best one!). Aliens did the only logical thing to evolve the series, which was increase the number and annihilate them all. Cameron did that well, but the Alien is a stalker, not an E.T. Schwarzenegger.

Spoon · 07-14-2005, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by [AVPW]Corpral Hicks
But that was the fault of a crappy writer.

Paul W.S. Anderson? Ronald Shusett? Or Dan O'Bannon? Better yet, perhaps you were talking about all three of them. For some reason, I knew from the start that Paul W.S. Anderson would fuck this film up.

[AVPW]Corpral Hic · 07-14-2005, 04:55 AM

that would be paul anderson

Sector70599 · 07-26-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Daemos
I was just tinkering in my room, wondering how an Alien 5 would be if it was set say BEFORE ALIEN or in the 200 years between A3 and AR. It would have to be a VERY isolated incident, no survivors for continuaty's sake.

Perhaps on an isolated mining planet (provides a good setting) at the ass end of space. The presence of Aliens is because of a buried derelict perhaps?

(I'm just throwing ideas, I still want my A5 to continue right where AR left off)

If they do make an Alien film set between Alien 3 and A:R then we'll probably see some Colonial Marines and their Smartguns and Pulse Rifles blasting bugs to bits and pieces again. Also we'll probably see sentry guns and flamethrowers again. Fry!!!!

It might work, I have no idea. I think as long as it's a complete fresh new cast of characters with none of the cast having a leftover from previous Alien films it should be worth a second look. What I menat by leftover was like how they had Lance Henriksen in AvP, and he had roles in previous Alien films.

No, have the whole cast new, so that will also mean new Marines. Also No "cloning" concepts.

[AVPW]Corpral Hic · 07-26-2005, 02:12 PM

Id like to see marines again. and a new cast!

Daemos · 07-26-2005, 03:13 PM

But Marines are such cut out cardboard characters. SO BORING!

Sector70599 · 07-26-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Daemos
But Marines are such cut out cardboard characters. SO BORING!

yea you're probably right why rehash the concept again right?

Kimarhi Ronso · 07-26-2005, 05:28 PM

I think some diversity in teh next film would be nice. Few soldiers. A prisoner or two. The mercs and civs.

See how they react to one another while being attacked by teh ALIENZ!

I realize that the merc/soldier thing has been done before, but on a small scale.

Sector70599 · 07-26-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Kimarhi Ronso
I think some diversity in teh next film would be nice. Few soldiers. A prisoner or two. The mercs and civs.

See how they react to one another while being attacked by teh ALIENZ!

I realize that the merc/soldier thing has been done before, but on a small scale.

if this was about another Pred movie then similar to your ideas I would say bring back the concept of thugs, criminal scum and maybe terrorists creating chaos to spice things up.

decept · 07-30-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kimarhi Ronso
The Alien films don't need a Ripley either if they want to spin their wills like the Pred films. However, if they want to progress the overall story of the franchise, they DO need a main character. That's probably the main difference so far. [/b]

i don't think that the predator films need a main character to avoid repeating themselves. it is possible for story to develop without a continuos main character. it just needs more reference to prior events. i can't think of a good example off of the top of the head but i guess you could look at star wars as an example where all of the main characters of the first three are absent from the second three. the story drives it along though (or is at least supposed to, don't really rate star wars much myself)

even if they decided to stick with the self contained format, by their nature film sequels tend to reference everything so as not to baffle newcomers to the series. for example with a3 you didn't need to have seen the previous two to understand what was happening. if a p3 was ever made it could "drop in" to the story similar to how a3 would have appeared to some. you're dead right that the second predator was basically a reprise of the first (although if you look at them broadly a3 could be a reprise of a1 and a4 could be a reprise of a2) but they don't have to stick with that formula

to the original post though, if this prequel were to happen completely independent of the existing films so as to not damage continuity is there any real need to make it a prequel? i think prequels often tend to have a bit of a stigma to them, i think people look at it as greedy filmmakers trying to desperately squeeze out as much cash fom a series as they can. of course the whole reason for making films in general is to make money but prequels sometimes just seem crowbarred in as an afterthought

Salvage Guy · 07-30-2005, 08:01 PM

Day by date progress of rumour from 'the horse's mouth' to pipeline to possibly.

Kimarhi Ronso · 07-30-2005, 10:06 PM

Hell, as much as I am telling myself not to get excited about something that could turn out to be nothing (just looking at all the other rumors on that site is a good enough reason why), I still couldn't help but feel a little twinge of excitement from bubbling up through the innards.

Especially if Ridley is involved.

07-13-2005, 05:29 AM	#61
Spoon Eating Utensil Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,151	It's still a worthy idea though. But how could you say A3 is better than A2? :tongue:

07-13-2005, 06:04 AM	#62
Injektilo SOBA VIOLENCE Godlike Poster Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northampton, UK Posts: 23,087	Easily. Though I prefer Aliens too, I can see why people are more captivated by 3.

07-13-2005, 12:02 PM	#64
Cthulhu0Dreaming Registered User Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 723	We all ahve to face the fact that if Fox gives the go for A5, which Weaver has stated she's willing to do (I can't remember if she said she'd do it only if Scott were directing), she will be the main focus. After all, it's been 26 years of the alien AND Ripley. What they should have done was not bring her back in AR, that would solve this problem. But AR most likely wouldn't have been made if Weaver didn't sign on as lead actress and producer. My personal opinion on the genre of A5 should retun to the horror/sci-fi tone Scott set in Alien (which is the best one!). Aliens did the only logical thing to evolve the series, which was increase the number and annihilate them all. Cameron did that well, but the Alien is a stalker, not an E.T. Schwarzenegger.

07-14-2005, 04:55 AM	#66
[AVPW]Corpral Hic AvPNews Webmaster Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,005	that would be paul anderson

07-26-2005, 02:12 PM	#68
[AVPW]Corpral Hic AvPNews Webmaster Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,005	Id like to see marines again. and a new cast!

07-26-2005, 03:13 PM	#69
Daemos GOD OF F*CK Godlike Poster Join Date: May 2001 Location: Judecca Posts: 23,076	But Marines are such cut out cardboard characters. SO BORING!

07-26-2005, 05:28 PM	#71
Kimarhi Ronso I thought what I'd do was.... Epic Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hooterville, KY, USA Posts: 16,365	I think some diversity in teh next film would be nice. Few soldiers. A prisoner or two. The mercs and civs. See how they react to one another while being attacked by teh ALIENZ! I realize that the merc/soldier thing has been done before, but on a small scale.

07-30-2005, 08:01 PM	#74
Salvage Guy Yelsent better be a fucking Christian Hardcore Veteran Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh, UK Posts: 9,006	Day by date progress of rumour from 'the horse's mouth' to pipeline to possibly.

07-30-2005, 10:06 PM	#75
Kimarhi Ronso I thought what I'd do was.... Epic Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hooterville, KY, USA Posts: 16,365	Hell, as much as I am telling myself not to get excited about something that could turn out to be nothing (just looking at all the other rumors on that site is a good enough reason why), I still couldn't help but feel a little twinge of excitement from bubbling up through the innards. Especially if Ridley is involved.