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SARGE_APONE[9thCM · 04-20-2005, 12:58 AM

another unconfirmed rumour about AVP3 & AVP2.5 ?

**take a look ! It is still unconfirmed **

Cutter Zane · 04-20-2005, 04:16 AM

Meh. Fox Interactive don't even exist anymore, so I seriously doubt its authenticity.

Bum Burster · 04-20-2005, 05:24 AM

Half december 2004, with no mention of Fox Interactive but just Fox.
Maybe the guy isn't aware that FI is dead.
It's interesting.

Pingree · 04-20-2005, 08:34 AM

That AvP2.5 [WTF?] screenie looks like a still from AvP1.

This is a load of bollocks.

INDY UKCM · 04-20-2005, 12:10 PM

It still amazes me how people can even try to pass off AvP Photos as an upcoming new version.
Hell that isn't even a screenshot. it's a photo of AvP on an old monitor

EVERYONE knows Fox has nothing to do with the AvP franchise anymore. Not since Fox Interactive sold out

Looks like someone is trying to pull a fast one

*****Edit******
That photo is 5yrs old
Created: 04/13/2000
Last modified: 12/19/2001

Done before AvP:GE came out (April 2000 here in UK)

Xenomrph · 04-20-2005, 01:12 PM

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EVERYONE knows Fox has nothing to do with the AvP franchise anymore.

How can that be possible, considering how FOX owns Aliens, Predator, and AvP?

Sgt. Slaughter · 04-20-2005, 01:23 PM

I agree on the fact that its an old still. But could it be possible that theyre taking AVPGE to Consoles?

INDY UKCM · 04-20-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sgt. Slaughter
I agree on the fact that its an old still. But could it be possible that theyre taking AVPGE to Consoles?

From everything that has been published in the media, Fox's website and other AvP areas. There are no plans to continue with the game either New Versions or Platform Jumping

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EVERYONE knows Fox has nothing to do with the AvP franchise anymore.
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How can that be possible, considering how FOX owns Aliens, Predator, and AvP?

Ok maybe I misunderstood the original line back in the day.
Perhaps that should have read .......

Fox doesn't want anything to do with the AvP franchise anymore.
It's been played out

azimaith · 04-20-2005, 02:25 PM

You would think they would give us gamers enough credit to be able to recognize a screen shot blatantly from AvP1. Hell, they didn't even *try* to edit it at *all*.

This=bullshit.

INDY UKCM · 04-20-2005, 03:13 PM

Has anybody read the header for that site

Quote:

Alien vs. Predator News Weekly

Welcome to the Home of the Alien vs. Predator Community!

And the Footer

Quote:

Your news, For Your Game

Pretty lame I think for a 1 page site. Even using the avpnews tag as well.

*****EDIT*******

I just read the entire item on the site regarding their "interview"
Now I hate to call place to peoples typing and techniques. But the punctuation, grammar and layout of that piece only points to the entire thing being a belated April Fools stunt

And adding a very old AvP1 photo as a "Next game design" header only emphasises (sp) it!

Sgt. Slaughter · 04-21-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by INDY UKCM

Fox doesn't want anything to do with the AvP franchise anymore.
It's been played out

Usually when that begins to happen, something new needs to be brought to the series. Then again Hollywood isnt that imaginative to think up anything good anymore without contradicting something in the previous movies.

Daemos · 05-01-2005, 08:59 AM

It's kinda sad really. AvP3 the game could be something amazing if done correctly.

If FI has nothing to do with it anymore, does it mean that we will likely never see another AvP game?

skullsplitter · 05-02-2005, 05:19 AM

The problem is that Fox is seriously lacking in terms of support of their key-franchises...

If you want AvP3 to be good, you need money, time and a proper team. Most of the time, Fox only gives one of these three factors attention.

Shataan · 05-19-2005, 11:22 AM

" A small team of Modelers w/partnership with Fox & Monolith Will be making a expansion pack to the Series that will "Swipe the AvP Community From Under It's Feet" qouted VP John."

For 1, that screen looks like SHITE. And 2, if Monolith comes within even touching distance of a new AvP, I won`t buy it. 3: DOOM 3 or better engine. Expansion pack my azz!!!! AvP deserves way better... a real next gen standalone.

Cutter Zane · 05-19-2005, 12:21 PM

Just as well it's all a sad hoax, huh?

Eldritch · 05-19-2005, 03:22 PM

To clear up anything: this is utter bullshit. There are no current plans to make a sequel to the AvP gaming series. Heck, even the separate franchises (i.e. Alien(s) and Predator) seem to be having no future in gaming.

skullsplitter · 05-19-2005, 06:08 PM

I'm pretty sure there will be more games, it's just not in short terms...

Eldritch · 05-20-2005, 03:05 AM

As it stands now, the future is dark.

And yes, Fox does not own the rights to develop A/P/AvP games.

Xenomrph · 05-20-2005, 03:43 AM

Tell me you're joking.

Am I the only person who thinks that's utterly insane?

Eldritch · 05-22-2005, 01:06 PM

No joke. But I do hope that those with the powah WILL realise that the world needs an AvP 3.

[AVPW]Corpral Hic · 05-29-2005, 03:13 AM

Alright then, we've got someone trying to pass off a screenshot from 5 years ago as a new game? The AVP2.5 sounds like a mod or something.

Unfortunetly its bullshit as much as I'd like a new, and hopefully decent game. I'd love a console game, an AVP FPS. It's a shame Natural Selection turned in Extinction ey, that might have given the gaming community abit more life!

Cutter Zane · 06-29-2005, 08:23 AM

I don't think it's a case of Fox not owning the rights to create AvP games anymore, since Fox Interactive were only ever "middle-men" anyway. They never developed their own games - they farmed out 20th Century Fox properties to third-party developers (eg. Rebellion, Argonaut, Eurocom, Crawfish, Monolith et al) and took a supervisory role in the production of resultant titles.

So now that Fox Interactive are dead, there's simply no 'intermediary' between 20th Century Fox and Vivendi Universal anymore. Obviously, Fox still own the copyrights and trademarks for both Alien and Predator franchises - it's just unclear as to what Vivendi's controlling rights currently are as a licensee. Maybe if they really are uninterested in doing an AvP3, someone else will try and pick up the licences.

skullsplitter · 06-30-2005, 04:46 AM

Exactly my point, but I hope it will be a talented studio with a sense of logic and courage.

Xenomrph · 06-30-2005, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Obviously, Fox still own the copyrights and trademarks for both Alien and Predator franchises - it's just unclear as to what Vivendi's controlling rights currently are as a licensee.

Thanks for clearing that up. That makes WAY more sense.

skullsplitter · 07-06-2005, 12:27 PM

VU and Epic sign a profitable deal

Newbeing · 07-14-2005, 09:29 AM

Wait so who owns the property to the AVP franchise? Or can any gaming company just get the greenlight from Fox?

I think it's completely insane that the AVP license would be dead in the water. A lot of people love both franchises and the potenial for gamplay (especially with the coming of nex gen) seems boundless.

I say make an open "sandbox" AVP game. Where you can drive around in APCs and Dropships. Or huge jungle areas to hunt in or colony complexes to gather hosts from.

Why do big name developers avoid this franchise like the plague anyway? Is it because they have to pay for the licensing?

skullsplitter · 07-14-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Newbeing
Why do big name developers avoid this franchise like the plague anyway? Is it because they have to pay for the licensing?

More because it costs quite a lot of money to do the title justice, money Fox wouldn't spend the last several titles.

Raven software with the Unreal Engine would allow much of what most fans want IMO, but Raven is quite iD-soft bound.

TLE · 07-15-2005, 03:18 AM

The last I remember which was admittedly several years ago, AVP2 did well enough they were planning pre-production on another sequel. Since then it has been rather quiet on that front except with the sub par AVP: Extinction coming out. But as I recall, that was never meant to be AVP3 either. Supposedly the movie did well enough despite the critics to consider going ahead with more on the gaming front.

Then again Fox is a Hollywood company and they change their minds more often than you can blink in an hour.

Cutter Zane · 07-15-2005, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TLE
The last I remember which was admittedly several years ago, AVP2 did well enough they were planning pre-production on another sequel.

Yep, and the people who said that are no longer involved in the AvP franchise at all. Just goes to show that times change, along with circumstances.

jdjedi · 07-16-2005, 09:56 PM

game over man! game over!

what the fuck are we going to do now!

the days are growing darker

04-20-2005, 12:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
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04-20-2005, 02:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
azimaith Miller: The Ultimate Badass. Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 3,664	You would think they would give us gamers enough credit to be able to recognize a screen shot blatantly from AvP1. Hell, they didn't even try to edit it at all. This=bullshit.
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07-14-2005, 09:29 AM	#26 (permalink)
Newbeing Featured Creature Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: some dark pit in space.... Posts: 2,260	Wait so who owns the property to the AVP franchise? Or can any gaming company just get the greenlight from Fox? I think it's completely insane that the AVP license would be dead in the water. A lot of people love both franchises and the potenial for gamplay (especially with the coming of nex gen) seems boundless. I say make an open "sandbox" AVP game. Where you can drive around in APCs and Dropships. Or huge jungle areas to hunt in or colony complexes to gather hosts from. Why do big name developers avoid this franchise like the plague anyway? Is it because they have to pay for the licensing?
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04-20-2005, 04:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cutter Zane Execute Order 666 Administrator Godlike Poster Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mont Clare, PA Posts: 20,776	Meh. Fox Interactive don't even exist anymore, so I seriously doubt its authenticity.

04-20-2005, 05:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bum Burster Shmup & FFVII addict Hardcore Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: France Posts: 8,338	Half december 2004, with no mention of Fox Interactive but just Fox. Maybe the guy isn't aware that FI is dead. It's interesting.

04-20-2005, 08:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pingree We Lost The Skyline... Hardcore Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sheffield, Yorkshire, UK Posts: 7,730	That AvP2.5 [WTF?] screenie looks like a still from AvP1. This is a load of bollocks.

04-20-2005, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
INDY UKCM Registered User l33t Inductee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oldham, Lancashire, England Posts: 673	It still amazes me how people can even try to pass off AvP Photos as an upcoming new version. Hell that isn't even a screenshot. it's a photo of AvP on an old monitor EVERYONE knows Fox has nothing to do with the AvP franchise anymore. Not since Fox Interactive sold out Looks like someone is trying to pull a fast one ***Edit**** That photo is 5yrs old Created: 04/13/2000 Last modified: 12/19/2001 Done before AvP:GE came out (April 2000 here in UK)

04-20-2005, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sgt. Slaughter Registered User Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2001 Location: Middlesex VA USA Posts: 1,646	I agree on the fact that its an old still. But could it be possible that theyre taking AVPGE to Consoles?

05-01-2005, 08:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
Daemos GOD OF F*CK Godlike Poster Join Date: May 2001 Location: Judecca Posts: 23,004	It's kinda sad really. AvP3 the game could be something amazing if done correctly. If FI has nothing to do with it anymore, does it mean that we will likely never see another AvP game?

05-02-2005, 05:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
skullsplitter AvP3 thinktank Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out of your head... Posts: 2,507	The problem is that Fox is seriously lacking in terms of support of their key-franchises... If you want AvP3 to be good, you need money, time and a proper team. Most of the time, Fox only gives one of these three factors attention.

05-19-2005, 11:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
Shataan Registered User Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 3,123	" A small team of Modelers w/partnership with Fox & Monolith Will be making a expansion pack to the Series that will "Swipe the AvP Community From Under It's Feet" qouted VP John." For 1, that screen looks like SHITE. And 2, if Monolith comes within even touching distance of a new AvP, I won`t buy it. 3: DOOM 3 or better engine. Expansion pack my azz!!!! AvP deserves way better... a real next gen standalone.

05-19-2005, 12:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cutter Zane Execute Order 666 Administrator Godlike Poster Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mont Clare, PA Posts: 20,776	Just as well it's all a sad hoax, huh?

05-19-2005, 03:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
Eldritch Aliens - Building Better Hives Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 1,837	To clear up anything: this is utter bullshit. There are no current plans to make a sequel to the AvP gaming series. Heck, even the separate franchises (i.e. Alien(s) and Predator) seem to be having no future in gaming.

05-19-2005, 06:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
skullsplitter AvP3 thinktank Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out of your head... Posts: 2,507	I'm pretty sure there will be more games, it's just not in short terms...

05-20-2005, 03:05 AM	#18 (permalink)
Eldritch Aliens - Building Better Hives Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 1,837	As it stands now, the future is dark. And yes, Fox does not own the rights to develop A/P/AvP games.

05-20-2005, 03:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Xenomrph AvP Online Encyclopedia Epic Poster Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Flagstaff, AZ (NAU) Posts: 19,812	Tell me you're joking. Am I the only person who thinks that's utterly insane?

05-22-2005, 01:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Eldritch Aliens - Building Better Hives Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 1,837	No joke. But I do hope that those with the powah WILL realise that the world needs an AvP 3.

05-29-2005, 03:13 AM	#21 (permalink)
[AVPW]Corpral Hic AvPNews Webmaster Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,005	Alright then, we've got someone trying to pass off a screenshot from 5 years ago as a new game? The AVP2.5 sounds like a mod or something. Unfortunetly its bullshit as much as I'd like a new, and hopefully decent game. I'd love a console game, an AVP FPS. It's a shame Natural Selection turned in Extinction ey, that might have given the gaming community abit more life!

06-29-2005, 08:23 AM	#22 (permalink)
Cutter Zane Execute Order 666 Administrator Godlike Poster Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mont Clare, PA Posts: 20,776	I don't think it's a case of Fox not owning the rights to create AvP games anymore, since Fox Interactive were only ever "middle-men" anyway. They never developed their own games - they farmed out 20th Century Fox properties to third-party developers (eg. Rebellion, Argonaut, Eurocom, Crawfish, Monolith et al) and took a supervisory role in the production of resultant titles. So now that Fox Interactive are dead, there's simply no 'intermediary' between 20th Century Fox and Vivendi Universal anymore. Obviously, Fox still own the copyrights and trademarks for both Alien and Predator franchises - it's just unclear as to what Vivendi's controlling rights currently are as a licensee. Maybe if they really are uninterested in doing an AvP3, someone else will try and pick up the licences.

06-30-2005, 04:46 AM	#23 (permalink)
skullsplitter AvP3 thinktank Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out of your head... Posts: 2,507	Exactly my point, but I hope it will be a talented studio with a sense of logic and courage.

07-06-2005, 12:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
skullsplitter AvP3 thinktank Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out of your head... Posts: 2,507	VU and Epic sign a profitable deal

07-15-2005, 03:18 AM	#28 (permalink)
TLE After the hugging Hardcore Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,787	The last I remember which was admittedly several years ago, AVP2 did well enough they were planning pre-production on another sequel. Since then it has been rather quiet on that front except with the sub par AVP: Extinction coming out. But as I recall, that was never meant to be AVP3 either. Supposedly the movie did well enough despite the critics to consider going ahead with more on the gaming front. Then again Fox is a Hollywood company and they change their minds more often than you can blink in an hour.

07-16-2005, 09:56 PM	#30 (permalink)
jdjedi Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: san antonio Posts: 215	game over man! game over! what the fuck are we going to do now! the days are growing darker